Which correct protocol should I choose?

zgl

Hi!
I'm new working on Solace PubSub and despite the fact I've been reading a lot, I didn't understand which is the correct protocol I should use.

For example, I have an application publishing more than 1k events per hour on dynamic topics. It can be company/salesorder/usa/123/234, company/salesorder/usa/453/1/45, company/salesorder/mexico/123/13, company/salesorder/brazil/1, and so on. Properties like /usa/123/234 can vary to different combinations.

I created some queues and subscribed topics to them, like company/salesorder/usa/>, and consumed queued messages.

I managed to publish guaranteed messages using SMF over Web Sockets and tried to do the same using AMQP and MQTT. What I didn't understand very well, to use AMQP and MQTT I must publish direct to a queue? When I try to publish to a topic using AMQP, Solace returns a message that the queue does not exist.

Can I publish to topics using AMQP, MQTT? If not, what scenario shall I use SMF, AMQP and MQTT?

Thanks and regards!

uherbst

Hi Guilherme,

Correct, AMQP in Solace brokers supports only persistent messages (in Solace speak, they are often called "Guaranteed messages").

Dynamic topics using AMQP: Absolutely possible.

The typical flow is:

publisher (can be done any supported language / API) publishes to a dynamic topic, for example /order/<orderid>/<customerid.

In the broker, you can configure as many queues as you want with wildcard-subscriptions, for example:

Queue: all_orders. Subscription /order/>

Queue: all_orders_from_customer123. Subscription /order/*/customer123/

And then, you configure your consumer to bind to your queue, for example one consumer binds to "all_orders", one consumer binds to "all_orders_from_customer123".

Create queue / add subscription:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt2E_kAhYCM

I want to repeat:

1. Typical workflow: Publish to a topic, consume from a queue
2. There is no need for publisher and consumer to use the same protocol or the same language. (you can publish from Java/SMF and consume with python/AMQP, if you want)

uherbst

You forgot to mention HTTP Post for publishing :-)

In fact, you can choose whatever protocol you like for publishing and (with a few limitations) for subscribing.

Most general protocol and fastest protocol is SMF - you can choose to use Java, python, GO (and more) as programming language.

In all that protocols you can publish to a topic - and you can consume from a queue (exception: MQTT: The MQTT protocol with QoS=1 is a bit picky about choosing a fixed queue for consuming).

If you have no obligations to use e.g. AMQP and you use a language, where SMF API is supported: Choose SMF.

Thank you

Uli

zgl

Hi Uli.
Thanks for your reply.
Checking documentation below, as far I understood, AMQP solution processes only persistent messages (queue and durable topic endpoints). https://docs.solace.com/API/Component-Maps.htm#AMQP

Is it possible achieve my goal publishing to dynamic topics using AMQP? I don't want publish to durable topic endpoints, I want to publish to any topic and that broker routes it to the correct queue.
Thanks and regards,
Guilherme

uherbst

Hi Guilherme,

Correct, AMQP in Solace brokers supports only persistent messages (in Solace speak, they are often called "Guaranteed messages").

Dynamic topics using AMQP: Absolutely possible.

The typical flow is:

publisher (can be done any supported language / API) publishes to a dynamic topic, for example /order/<orderid>/<customerid.

In the broker, you can configure as many queues as you want with wildcard-subscriptions, for example:

Queue: all_orders. Subscription /order/>

Queue: all_orders_from_customer123. Subscription /order/*/customer123/

And then, you configure your consumer to bind to your queue, for example one consumer binds to "all_orders", one consumer binds to "all_orders_from_customer123".

Create queue / add subscription:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt2E_kAhYCM

I want to repeat:

1. Typical workflow: Publish to a topic, consume from a queue
2. There is no need for publisher and consumer to use the same protocol or the same language. (you can publish from Java/SMF and consume with python/AMQP, if you want)

zgl

Thank you very much!

I managed to do it using SMF but with AMQP, when I publish to a topic returns a message from Solace that the "queue" does not exist, even though I'm not publishing to a queue and it's the same topic that I used to SMF.

I will check my app. Maybe there's something wrong there.

Jotivirix

Hi, all, I need to reactivate this topic xD

I have an application that works on IBM MQ and consumes and sends all kind of messages to topics.

I have used AMQPNetLite.dll to achieve this solution, I connect successfully as AMQP client to my Solace Server but when I try to publish any message, I have the same error, Queue does not exist.

Could anyone help?

Thanks :)